protective layers

[EpicentrE]

Than DBA shouldn't be allowed either, same perimeter protection, same amount of Ti. BUT it has been allowed to compete, and succesfully i might add

Yes I realise that, but these rules wern't in affect then, which is why I was making the point In all honesty, rules such as this one seem to be kind of pointless, being that they are never enforced unless a robot is clearly doing what the rule was designed to prevent (see Badger), and on the same note, will most likely not be enforced at AWS21, again, unless there is a robot that is clearly doing what the rule was designed to prevent.

Edit: Maybe the rule would be better reworded in a way such as this;

'A continuous peice of metal armour must not encompass the robot's perimiter to an extent that the robot could be seen as 'invulnerable' to attacks from aggresive weaponry from all sides. If you are unsure whether or not your design will be allowed, please contact a commitee member or the event organiser, or you may risk disqualification.'

This seems to make a lot more sense to me.

[Cavecrusher]

hey, you're the event organiser for AWS21, you can allow it, saves me some work

(funny note: i'll be 21 at AWS 21 on oct 21st )

[Marco Roberts]

To be honest I am not bothered.
But what if some one decided to add say, a water pistol (liquid based weapon).
They prity much have brocken the rules as well.
Is it fair how some people can follow the rules to the very word and others try to bend it here and there.
Again just to say i aint bothered and im not pointing fingers.

[Adam Hargreaves]

A water pistol would be competely smashing the rules-as long as i can remember there's been the no liquid weapons rule. The metal rule, seems to be still open to a little bit of interpretation (think my new one breaks it as well), but as the more certain rule is still provisional, until such time as it becomes the norm, DBA, and it's new brother (which looks awesome-Franz may have to come out of retirement to be demolished by it again) will be considered legal. I think the rule is designed to prevent people building a flea and then having 75g of inpenetrable armour, like a mini tank or something (though i suppose it could just go the whole way and have a water gun turret, lol). My 2 cents anyway-i'm off to cut the sides off my wedgey thing, so it's legal according to all rules...

[patdied]

About that rule does that mean if i robot was covered in metal it will not be able to fight? Like this kit:

http://www.robotcombat.com/marketplace_ ... assis.html

The chassis is all metal and has a metal lid for the top. If that is not allowed then that means all my work for that robot is now out the door .

[BeligerAnt]

Inertia Labs supply parts aimed at the US market. The US antweight rules are somewhat different to our European rules.
For a start, US ants have a one pound (454g) weight limit. European ants are limited to 150g (225g for a walker).

Our metal armour rule was brought in pretty much to prevent the type of chassis you have there! The reasoning was that if you think about it upside-down, with the cover plate making the bottom, it would make a very boring - but indestructible - pusher. The fear was that every bot would then end up like that and we would take a giant evolutionary step backwards.

Of course, this rule only applies to armour, so if you just use the chassis as a chassis and build other parts of the bot outside it, then there wouldn't be a problem. Armour is a "protective covering". If your chassis doesn't cover anything, then it's not armour!

Hope this helps. If you want to compete in US/Canadian events, be sure to track down the local rules!

[Flippt]

I think we need to discuss this amour thing.

The thing about making a invincible pusher, is only in theory. And the step backwards in the evolution, is not gonna happend, as there always be someone with a spinner who are willing to take on those metal matchboxes.

Could the committee look at this rule and maybe change it slightly, we dont wanna loose too many newbies, now do we?

[patdied]

Newbies... Like me . Proud to be a newb and looks apon others. I think I might be allowed if I didn't put on the top lid or made a copy of the top lid but a plasic version .

[patdied]

Inertia Labs supply parts aimed at the US market. The US antweight rules are somewhat different to our European rules.
For a start, US ants have a one pound (454g) weight limit. European ants are limited to 150g (225g for a walker).

Our metal armour rule was brought in pretty much to prevent the type of chassis you have there! The reasoning was that if you think about it upside-down, with the cover plate making the bottom, it would make a very boring - but indestructible - pusher. The fear was that every bot would then end up like that and we would take a giant evolutionary step backwards.

Of course, this rule only applies to armour, so if you just use the chassis as a chassis and build other parts of the bot outside it, then there wouldn't be a problem. Armour is a "protective covering". If your chassis doesn't cover anything, then it's not armour!

Hope this helps. If you want to compete in US/Canadian events, be sure to track down the local rules!

Thanks that did help! I don't think there are any Canadian events. I never heard of one, they all are US and UK.

[ewan]

Look around a bit more!

http://www.kilobots.com/index.htm

Might be just what you're after... You're located in Canada no? Not much chance you'd be competing here in the UK so their forums will likely be more relevent to whatever you end up building.