Looks good and fair to me Peter. I'd be happy to instigate it, although it'll have to be discussed and agreed on at the AWS. For this event, it'll have to be the current set of rules we use, as Gary says.
But yeah, I'd be happy to use that graph. Makes it all very easy to understand.
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Re: Rule 2o: Clusterbot weight limits
I have moved this discussion into the rules debate. The original rule is certainly limited in that it only considers a cluster of two robots. Also it appears to limit botlets in a mixed cluster to half the maximum weight, whereas no such restriction exists for all-roller (or all-walker) clusters.
Do we agree that Peter's graph does what we want, allowing for clusters of more than two botlets in any combination?2o) Where a clusterbot is composed of a rotary and a walking/shuffling botlet, then each botlet is allowed up to half the maximum of its class (e.g. an antweight cluster might be composed of a roller weighing 75g and a walker weighing 113g).
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I agree on that Gary. I like the graph, makes it simple. We'll have to make it ever-accessible on the forum somewhere (providing everyone agrees)
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I don't really mind on this but wouldn't it be simpler to say that the whole cluster must weigh no more than 150g or 225g if one or more botlets is a walker? Then it doesn't matter what the weight distribution is or how many clusters there are.
Otherwise, I'm happy to back Pete's graph...
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But you have a problem of a 150gram antweight and a 75g walker.petec wrote:I don't really mind on this but wouldn't it be simpler to say that the whole cluster must weigh no more than 150g or 225g if one or more botlets is a walker? Then it doesn't matter what the weight distribution is or how many clusters there are.
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There's no problem. You have a single combined weight. If you have a walker you can have up to 225g - your nominal 75g walker is likely to be uncompetitive in practice but if it is then someone is being clever in the rules...which is what we want. It must be a walker, though, not a stomp bot.
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So are you saying I can enter a 200g roller and a 25g walker then?
I don't think that's being "clever" with the rules, just exploiting an obvious and undesirable loophole!
Although the 25g walker is unlikely to be anything spectacular, it would still leave a 200g roller to beat in order to win the match...
I don't think that's being "clever" with the rules, just exploiting an obvious and undesirable loophole!
Although the 25g walker is unlikely to be anything spectacular, it would still leave a 200g roller to beat in order to win the match...
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